tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22877324.post8529577364472659745..comments2023-05-13T04:50:48.956-05:00Comments on Keep Changing- A Gay Mormon Journey: Indulging one's worst-L-http://www.blogger.com/profile/02854867259876731599noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22877324.post-77674409240597009542006-12-06T20:07:00.000-05:002006-12-06T20:07:00.000-05:00While I understand the personal cost to you, and I...While I understand the personal cost to you, and I also believe my new friend would never have left unless I asked him to do so, personally, I also don't think I could have found the courage to do so without the support lent me by you and others. <br /><br />If you had just "talked nicely" to him--I'm not sure I would have had the courage to confront him. You did--so I did, too. I'm not sure this makes sense to you, but it makes sense to me. And I'm really grateful for friends like you.Samanthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216416424593449924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22877324.post-20797983071918881822006-12-06T15:07:00.000-05:002006-12-06T15:07:00.000-05:00i was surprised that AAKC didn't didn't dwell on j...i was surprised that AAKC didn't didn't dwell on joe's shooting of the german scientist [even in self-defense it seemed over the line]. but perhaps the novelist's picture of obession and isolation needs no further comment, those two factors can push anyone over the line.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22877324.post-43503405897120044512006-12-06T14:23:00.000-05:002006-12-06T14:23:00.000-05:00I didn't see scot's post as I was writing mine. Cl...I didn't see scot's post as I was writing mine. Clearly he ihas the more intelligent point.<br /><br />I hereby redact my thoughts and sojoin in the camp of scot on this issue.Loyalist (with defects)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17928372020769470585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22877324.post-30731177869705976322006-12-06T14:19:00.000-05:002006-12-06T14:19:00.000-05:00It is easy to place things/ideas/persons into cate...It is easy to place things/ideas/persons into categories which we can label a good or bad, right/wrong, left/right, up/down, yellow/green.<br /><br />It seems that the problem becomes when we refuse to see any other side. When legitimate and rightful argument can be made we must acknowlege that idea (we don't have to accept it into our lives) but at least give it room to do it's "thing".<br /><br />What makes me crankiest is when we do not want to accept the consquences of our actions. The action is ours and so is the outcome (favorable or not).<br /><br />Weighing things out; slow and deliberate; meditating for the answer. These are rational approaches to a sometimes irrational world. No doubt they are necessary and need. <br /><br />There are times with that is not called for. But like you I don't know where that line (if there is one) is. I'll have to think, ponder and pray on that; then get back with you. ;-)Loyalist (with defects)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17928372020769470585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22877324.post-69107062158893831242006-12-06T14:15:00.000-05:002006-12-06T14:15:00.000-05:00It’s certainly tough to “resist not evil”, just as...It’s certainly tough to “resist not evil”, just ask any pope of the inquisition. And I’m not the sort to be 100% passive either; so forget that ;-).<br /><br />"<I>So, how and when do you draw the line?</I>"<br /><br />There is a fuzzy line, a place where people can differ without harming each other, but I’d say a child rapist is well past the line. You’ve got a clear victim, and a perpetrator knowingly harassing and harming them. If you value the child’s life and rights, you have to act.<br /><br />How to respond? I’d say give him and others like him motivation to not take such action, and that should include taking his freedoms, and can certainly include harsh language on top of that, even if it’s not heartfelt.<br /><br />As I expressed months ago, I wouldn’t say we even had to feel hatred for him to do that. We could even look at his actions as an inevitable part of his makeup, and feel pity, but that still wouldn’t change the fact that our goal is to keep children from being harmed and, for goal that, we present the pedophile with consequences, to alter his will. He’s harmed (or will be) for the cold reasonable aim of tipping motivation away from harming a victim, a child. No unreasonably fiend needed, right?Scothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12350801865113852319noreply@blogger.com