tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22877324.post114412922098337188..comments2023-05-13T04:50:48.956-05:00Comments on Keep Changing- A Gay Mormon Journey: Long comment-L-http://www.blogger.com/profile/02854867259876731599noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22877324.post-1144324027285379872006-04-06T06:47:00.000-05:002006-04-06T06:47:00.000-05:00Hurricane said: " I continue to believe that wanti...Hurricane said: " I continue to believe that wanting to change one's sexual orientation is a form of self loathing and is a significant obstacle to self acceptance."<BR/><BR/>I agree with you. It would be like wanting to change from left-handed to right-handed just because society disdains left-handed people. It's wanting to change to please others rather then embrace one's true self.David Walterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16961185167489984607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22877324.post-1144318998021455582006-04-06T05:23:00.000-05:002006-04-06T05:23:00.000-05:00ldswithssa,I hear this all the time, and yet I don...ldswithssa,<BR/><BR/>I hear this all the time, and yet I don't know of a single person who has successfully converted from homosexual to heterosexual orientation.<BR/><BR/>The preponderence of the evidence tells us that orientation is largely fixed.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05940646193920094814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22877324.post-1144313759797546042006-04-06T03:55:00.000-05:002006-04-06T03:55:00.000-05:00There is plenty of research and clinical practice ...There is plenty of research and clinical practice showing that orientation is pliable, not set in stone. It's the political landscape that keeps it from being recognized.LDSwithSSAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16496810466707685439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22877324.post-1144215597687323102006-04-05T00:39:00.000-05:002006-04-05T00:39:00.000-05:00Thanks, L, for responding at length to my post--an...Thanks, L, for responding at length to my post--and for your kind words about me. I know that we are approaching our homosexuality differently, but we share the bond and I have enjoyed discussing the gay Mormon experience with you.<BR/><BR/>I have nothing of substance to say in response to your response. Just a few random thoughts.<BR/><BR/>1. I don't really have any issue with your distinction between attraction and behavior. I just disagree with you on the implications.<BR/><BR/>2. I will concede that it's possible that I got some of the details of Kimball's <I>Miracle</I> wrong. In an emotional act of catharsis, I actually burned my copy of the book about four months ago, so I no longer have it here to reference.<BR/><BR/>3. I think the juxtaposition of sexual sin with murder is nothing more than nonsensical Victorian prudery. Human beings are sexual creatures, and these types of condemnations create unnecessary shame and heartache.<BR/><BR/>4. I continue to believe that wanting to change one's sexual orientation is a form of self loathing and is a significant obstacle to self acceptance. On this point, you and I will simply disagree. And you certainly know your experience and psyche better than I do, and it may well refute to some extent my assertion on this point.<BR/><BR/>5. I am aware that the APA's position is political. But I also have faith in the professionalism of most of its members and believe the position they have adopted on homosexuality and reparative therapy is reflective of consensus thinking based in research and clinical practice.<BR/><BR/>6. I'm looking forward to hearing from you on conversion/reparative therapy.<BR/><BR/>Thanks again for your kind words about my posts and my approach.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05940646193920094814noreply@blogger.com